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Posted by anonymous on Wed Nov 4, 2009 at 03.49 pm

#1

Bloomberg has had eight years in office and has given me no reason to believe that he cares about nightlife.

Number one.  We still have the Cabaret Law.

The Department of Buildings is still awful.  Where is the business-minded, efficient, customer-oriented government we were promised?

None of his urban planning and rezoning initiatives set aside some areas for nightlife & entertainment. 

The NYPD is still out of control.  CCRB complaints are at an all time high.  Fewer police than ever are being tried.  The Stop and Frisk campaign is basically a war of harassment against poor colored people.

The padlocking of Cielo for a month for specious reasons?  Bringing Pacha to trial? Arbitrarily shutting down clubs the night before gay pride just to show them who’s boss?  Bloomberg could stop these things.  But he doesn’t care.

The SLA is going to take a long, long time to get straightened out.  (Of course, this is the State’s problem, not the city’s.  Not blaming Mike for this one.)

Ultimately… Eight years after Mike, NYC has fewer safe, legal, affordable places to DANCE than ever.  All of the fancy hotel bars and lounges for the rich are not going to bring real nightlife and culture back to this city.

Not everyone has as much money to spend on a night out as the readers of this blog.  And they deserve a place to dance too.  Mike won’t help them.

Posted by steve lewis on Wed Nov 4, 2009 at 09.24 pm

#2

nightlife has done better under the last year of mayor bloomberg, yes the gay pride attack was horrible but i cant believe anyone in the mayors office was aware of it until it was too late. anyway he is our mayor and we must work with him. i dont believe in the repeal of the cabaret laws w/o addressing the serious safety issues that would arise. fire suppression systems etc protect dancers who are in a state less likely to see fire at the early stages. plus these expensive systems alert fdny automatically. there is no cheap solution. manhattan is expensive and clubs need revenues to stay in biz. affordable places to dance may not have a future in midtown, think bk

Posted by anonymous on Thu Nov 5, 2009 at 02.35 pm

#3

What safety features are mandated by the Cabaret Law that are not included in DOB Use Group 12 C of O & PA code, SLA approval process, NYS security guard law, or other regulatory compliance? 

If the Cabaret Law disappeared tomorrow, throwing a party in a venue without requisite safety features would still be illegal.

Lots of safety features are built into the DOB code for entertainment venues.  The text of the Cabaret Law does not mention much about safety, other than it has to be in compliance with all applicable statutes and regulations.  The DCA does look for electrical and fire suppression as part of the application process, but you’re supposed to have those things anyway.

Seems to me like it’s an arbitrary piece of paper you have to get from yet another poorly run city agency.  Remember… the original purpose of the law was social control, not safety.

Posted by steve lewis on Thu Nov 5, 2009 at 09.29 pm

#4

most places dont put in the fire systems because they cost too much. i stand by what i said. if a space puts in these systems and safety requirements are met then it should be automatic. but to have dancing in the local bar creates potential disaster if these measures are not built in. the creation of a dance area or open space where people can dance will have a different occupancy than the same place where people are seated. a different ratio is used. im not talking sprinklers btw . im talking systems that alert the fdny automaticaly when sprinklers go on. im talking alarm pull boxes etc. safety !!!

Posted by Sam on Fri Nov 6, 2009 at 02.21 pm

#5

By the way Mr. Racist anonymous person.Blacks and Hispanics are not referred to as “Colored People”. You whites and your racist rhetoric is partly why America is a f**ked up Country

Posted by anonymous on Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 09.49 am

#6

Sam, how can arguing against the stop & frisk policy be construed as “racist rhetoric”?  The point is that it is a Ray Kelly / Bloomberg policy that harms poor “non whites” (is that okay?).

I don’t think most people are offended by the use of “colored” to refer to non-whites.  For instance, do you consider the NAACP a “racist” organization?

If you’re just hunting for reason to call people “racist”, you can find one for anyone… regardless of their skin tone.  Also!  Have you been to other countries?  Most of them have societal racial prejudices, often far worse than the US.

New York City is probably the most successfully integrated place in the world, even with all of the disparity we still have.

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