Paradou’s Vadim Ponorovsky on the Warpath
Foster Kamer
November 20, 2009
Okay, here's what happened: one of the three night editors at Gawker, Ravi Somaiya, went live around 7am with a post of a leaked, uh, memo from Meatpacking District restaurant owner Vadim Ponorovsky, to Paradou's staff, berating them for not collecting guests' email addresses for the Paradou's online mailer. Sample sentence: "You sit there bitching about how you make no money, remember its because youre fucking lazy motherfuckers. YOU SHOULD ALL BE FIRED IMMEDIATELY!!!!! ALL OF YOU, INCLUDING THE HOSTS!!!!" The post broke 10,000 hits, the rage of the masses ensued. Ponorovsky maybe tried to sneak into Gawker's comments to defend his actions. We contacted Ponorovsky for quote. So did Daniel at Grub Street, and Amanda at Eater. Both posts are worth reading. And here's what he told me.
Do you regret writing the email?
Do I regret that? Yeah. I probably stepped over the line. Do I regret the message? No. As a business owner, I should expect them to do what I ask them to do. No one has been fired or will be fired. That’s not the nature of my relationship with the staff. All of these people who are spouting their venom have no clue as to the nature of the relationship of my staff. They have no understanding of the consequences of their actions. What’s going to happen? My business will decrease. What’s the consequence of that? My staff will make less money. The way Paradou runs: there aren’t many layers. There’s no floor manager or back bar people. The reason we do that is that our staff are responsible people. We don’t micromanage that.
Why did someone decide to leak the email?
Because people are petty. People don’t think. My partner was upset. My wife was upset. But my approach was: I don’t care. I will speak with you exactly. I view profanity as reinforcing adjectives.
Why is the email mailer such an issue with you?
The email collection is strictly voluntary (for customers). It’s not like we’re trying to steal (customer’s) email addresses, their cards out of their wallets. Is it a mandate? I wouldn’t call it a mandate. Is it something we stress? Prior to this, were any quantitative goals set? No.
But could you be more effective without speaking to your staff like this? Was this really the most effective way of getting this done?
Yes. I’ll tell you how I know that: In the two or three months prior to me sending out this email, they weren’t collecting any emails. Since I sent that email, they’ve collected around 200 emails. The emails I’m asking them [to collect] represent less than 10% of the email (addresses) that come into the restaurant. We do not micromanage. We leave the restaurant in the hands of the employees - you see this happen with the mom and pops, not the BR Guests who do have mandates. They don’t collect enough emails, they’re fired. We don’t do that. [Ed. Note: We could not confirm the existence of “mandates” in B.R. Guest restaurants, whereby employees have quotas contingent upon their employment for collecting emails. We’ll update if we do.]
But again, was this really the most effective way to deal with this situation?
Once again, prior to this, you probably had no clue who Vadim Ponorovsky was. I didn’t get in to this business to be on Iron Chef. Before this, I built teams for multinationals of 20-somethings in marketing. They will all tell you that I was one of the better bosses they’ve ever had.
Isn’t this the kind of thing that would further inspire disloyalty? How do you think this is going to effect the relationship you have with your staff?
The relationship I have with my staff? If you asked them, they would probably tell you that I’m not there often. Because I trust them. Several of them have come back to work at Paradou [after leaving].
On the Gawker writer who posted the article, and the emails and phone calls he’s received after the Gawker post went up:
Do these people not have jobs? Do these people not have lives? Why am I so important to them in terms of lashing out?
So, there you have it. Vadim’s perspective. A few notes for the uninitiated:
1. Restaurant owners who aren’t in their restaurants are commonplace. So are the warm relationships those owners have, despite not being around very often, with their staff.
2. It’s true, the service industry, at bare bones, can be a little grittier than its counterparts in regards to the way in which people are spoken to. When you’re running a live show, you need to communicate effectively. It’s not a hard argument to note that this isn’t the way to do it.
3. Vadim spoke at length, was not at all apologetic for what he did, and was more than willing to expound on the issue at hand. This probably isn’t the best idea. Besides the inevitable worker-side support of service industry employees being treated respectfully, regardless of “unique” relationships being detailed—and let’s face it, if Vadim had such a good relationship with his employees that he could speak to them like this without it being an issue, the email wouldn’t have leaked in the first place—and besides the questions of poor labor practices this will raise, Vadim’s restaurant has other pecking holes as well. For example, did you know Paradou has a five-course foie gras menu? Yeah. While David Chang gets harassed for having one foie gras dish on his menu a night, this guy’s serving it five different ways with their own pairings.
Forget animal cruelty, though. People cruelty should probably be dealt with first. This, everyone, is a new step for karma: the lack of anything getting in the way of the upshot besides the “forward” button on an email. Ponorovsky has tried to contact me since I spoke with him, and honestly, I’ve got nothing to say the guy. Maybe it’s unprofessional to report this with perspective instead of under the guise of “just news,” and really, his quotes speak for themselves, but come on, now: this is just bullshit. And as people who love the service industry, and everything else it produces besides the by-products that are people like Vadim Ponorovsky, and as New Yorkers, and as people who understand the need to communicate well, but who also understand the need for compassion: this is just bullshit. Ben, Amanda: Deathwatch this place. These people will find better places to work, starting with whatever takes Paradou’s place.
UPDATE: But wait, there’s more!
Comments (20)
Posted by anonymous on Fri Nov 20, 2009 at 04.11 pm
“Do these people not have jobs? Do these people not have lives? Why am I so important to them in terms of lashing out?”
Oh, they have jobs. They have jobs, they sit in front of computers for a large portion of their day. At times they make hourly wages that far exceed what you could stand to profit off of your peice of shit restaurant. They are your patrons, they work 9-5 and on the evenings and weekends they populate restaurants all over New York City. You’re totally f**ed.
Posted by JonDavies on Fri Nov 20, 2009 at 04.13 pm
This is what we waiters have to endure… varying in degrees of craziness, of course! I have many thoughts on the matter, but think it wise to direct you to my favorite video blog right now - a waiter on YouTube who says what so many of us in the industry think and feel.
http://www.youtube.com/user/YourDailyTip
He teaches people how to be better customers, and what to look out for when they are dining. He has already covered the caffeine sub for decaf trick, never order things well done, that people don’t know what the heck they’re drinking - as far as liquors and wine, etc. Plus, he’s funny, nice, angry, cute, bitter, and charming!
I’ve seen his channel grow in a matter of months from 20 subscribers to over 700… but I would like to see it grow even more. He deserves it, I think!
Posted by Cash Loveland on Fri Nov 20, 2009 at 07.24 pm
This Guy Vadim Ponorovsky Sounds Like a 13 Year Old Girl Who Was Cheated on By Her Boyfriend. Get the Fuck Out of New York You Communist Pig.
Posted by anonymous on Fri Nov 20, 2009 at 07.36 pm
This is the best response to Vadim. Now can you deal with the Park Slope restauranteurs who are paying people $2.75 an hour?
Posted by anonymous on Sat Nov 21, 2009 at 03.49 am
I stand by the owner mainly because if after the waiters have not done their jobs of even something small such as collecting emails from guests, how can we even then trust them to handle money and the safety of the restaurant. Not everything is about the waiters. Please grow up, its about time we heard less whining from the people and more action is done. If nothing is done, get out. Simple as that, you are paid to do a job, no matter how simple or complex. By not doing it, it is already a breach of contract. So please grow up, grow some balls, pick up your socks and get to work!
Posted by anonymous on Sat Nov 21, 2009 at 10.33 am
Hi vadim,
stop trying to defend yourself in comments. It’s pathetic and people can see right through it. There is no excuse to treat people like shit, unless it is cover for your own insecurities of course!
Posted by anonymous on Sat Nov 21, 2009 at 11.13 am
this is NOT an issue of owner vs. employees. this is an issue of internet spam vs. another out of touch douchebag who doesn’t have a clue how to get his word out in 2009.
they call it social media, facebook, twitter, etc and it allows people to find you & not impose on them - a concept that Vadim has obviously missed. social media is designed to do just that, but Vadim is stuck in 1997. (and not just with those glasses either)
people don’t want to give out their email addresses unless they give it to you voluntarily. we’re not stupid, we know where we can get some crappy newsletter, but when you put us on the spot, like at radio shack, we usually say no. restaurants asking is even more awkward because you feel sorry for the server.
Vadim’s idiocy isn’t even so much that he’s an abusive Frukt moron that mistreats his employees, it’s that he’s an abusive Frukt moron who misunderstands his clientele & the modern world around him - much more damaging trait to a businessman. maybe he knows that & that’s why he stays out of his own restaurant? But not knowing how to harness the power of the web which any 2nd year social media producer could do, and thus turning on your employees with some retarded hatefilled diatribe that just outlines how clueless he is - that;s just window dressing.
Posted by DBSR on Sat Nov 21, 2009 at 01.19 pm
This man’s email was absolutely riduculous. He can downplay it all he can, but I bet his staff felt unappreciated and downright humiliated.
Where does he get off talking to another human being that way...he should be fired!!
Posted by anonymous on Sat Nov 21, 2009 at 02.42 pm
Boycott Paradou!
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Posted by anonymous on Fri Nov 20, 2009 at 03.06 pm
Awesome article. Restaurant owners who claim “this is just the way it works, I swear I am no different” are not even bothering to justify why they so terrible to other people. The truth is that it stems from an insecurity: these people put up the capital for a restaurant, and then sit back and let other people do the work (physical and creative).
More importantly, the excuse that “everyone does it” doesn’t work for elementary school kids,so why should it work for him?
The service industry works for low pay, has absolutely no benefits and no job security and often it is the only option available to a lot of people. Do we really need to crap on these people more?